A Credo For Support


I didn’t know Norm Kunc and Emma Van der Klift had made it to Youtube, but here’s a video they put there, made by San Luis Obispo People First. If you can get it to play, please watch it all the way through. (It’s open-captioned.)


About Mel Baggs

Hufflepuff. Came from the redwoods. Crochet or otherwise create constantly and compulsively. Write poetry and paint when I can. Developmentally disabled, physically and cognitively disabled. I'm not really part of any online faction or another, even ones that claim me as a member. The thing in the world most important to me is having love and compassion for other people, although I don't always measure up to my own standards there by a longshot. And individual specific actions and situations and contexts matter a lot more to me than broadly-spoken abstract words and ideas about a topic. My father died in 2014 and that has changed my life a lot in ways that are still evolving, but I wear a lot of his clothes and hats every day since he died and have shown no sign of stopping soon.

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  1. this is very good. can someone more techie than me explain why the synch is so off? it makes it look like they are not really the ones speaking, but i think they are.

  2. It’s probably a separate audio and video track, made by the same people. Also, some people on there have highly non-standard mouth movement, and may well be more in sync with the audio than they look. (When I make speech noises with my mouth, I barely at all move my lips, I’m not sure what that would look like on video.)

    Separate audio and video tracks are also used in, for instance, music videos, but being professionals, they sync better.

  3. I really want to watch this. I am feeling disabled by my dial up connection. I made it past the intro, and into the man’s second line, when my “connection was terminated because the other side was not responding”. There is probably a good analogy for my kids in there somewhere. How utterly frustrating! Yes, I am an internet retard (to use Shawn McDaniel’s words). The rest of the world (as it seems from my oddball perspective) is clicking on the You Tube, and getting instant gratification. I may never get to see the whole thing. mope. 14 minutes to load a minute and a half. I really need to go get some work done. Thanks for bringing this to my attention though. Maybe I’ll have enough time later.

  4. I’ve seen my own videos go out of sync, it’s probably because of computer glitch… it also might be a youtube or Internet thing… and it also occured to me that it could be their non-standard mouth movements. Anyway, it’s was stunning. Thanks.

  5. Amen! I liked the fellow’s humorous line, (paraphrased), “the last thing the world needs is another Jerry Lewis”.

    As for the synchronization problem, Amanda has provided the best explanation. Also, there is the whole bandwith issue, as poor Suzanne has found out. Dial-up sucks!

    I know a bit about Internet communications, but I think that without getting too technical, Amanda has pretty much nailed it.

  6. Been lurking here for a while, and I think I just had an eye-opening moment from this video, related to view-from-above – which I think is a much better term than “othering”, because “othering” sounds power-neutral whereas view-from-above makes it clear that there’s a power thing going on as well.


    I’ve been trying to think about view-from-above and what it’s opposite could be, and like the people in the video were saying, it’s not charity. I’m wondering if the best way to describe it could be “solidarity”?

  7. t.comfyshoes wrote:
    I’ve been trying to think about view-from-above and what it’s opposite could be, and like the people in the video were saying, it’s not charity. I’m wondering if the best way to describe it could be “solidarity”?

    How about “equity”?

  8. yeah i was gonna say “equity” too.

    i don’t even know where i got the word “other-ing” from … but whatever we call it, there is a power aspect involved in who gets to decide the categories of people. even in who gets to decide that there are categories of people.

  9. I’m quite certain I’ve heard “othering” before, in any number of intelligent forums. It can certainly apply anywhere there are implied categories of personhood (“Naw, Jem, I think there’s just one type of folks. Folks.”).

    Something about the mechanism of video invites the viewer to get particularly close, and to “level” with the person on the screen, in a way that is more conducive to comfort — and in the spirit of communication, the viewer *wants* the person on the screen to convey a successful message. Good ol’ film language. I’m gaining more respect for that flippant Andy Warhol these days.

    And speaking of voyeurism and comfort, Amanda, a few months back I mentioned my “Freaks I Love” project and offered to snail you a copy of the chapbook. You didn’t respond, and later I realized how stupid it was to ask for something so private as a home address from you, given your history with predators. I would still like to get you a hard copy, though, if there’s a less private way, like a P.O. box or something. Let me know.

    And speaking of projects and personhood, Amanda, I demand progress on your “defining personhood” endeavor! (said the lady who assigned herself a project in syntax dissemblance and has yet to follow through . . .)

  10. Evonne: If you mentioned it, I just plain don’t remember. If you email me I will give you my address.

    As far as defining personhood goes, that project, like a lot, is on hold indefinitely (actually has been on and off for years).

  11. Amanda, What email are you using now? I had tried to email you a few months ago using the 2 emails I knew of but never heard back on either one so I may have the wrong ones?
    Thanks again for telling me where you got those cheap colored glasses from. I got my eyes checked so am going to order some there. I was able to get that pupillary distance measured too, and found two pair of glasses that look like I would really like them. (I am very picky about the height being greater. I couldn’t wear the new fashionable narrow height ones.) But, I don’t know how to know if they will fit my face as far as all those other measurements. How did you find ones that would fit???

    Also, how did you explain to people the tint so that they didn’t think you were wearing sunglasses and just tell you to take them off?

    Which tints did you try? I know blue works well for me on paper and computer, but am not sure for glasses.

  12. Hi Amanda,

    I tried to post this once and don’t know if it went through.

    What email are you using now? I tried several monts ago emailing you at the two I knew of and never heard back, so I must have the wrong ones.

    Thanks again for telling me about those cheap glasses. I got my eyes examined so am going to get some. How do you know if they will fit your face? I found one pair I really like (I am picky about wanting the height to be larger.) and am not sure if it will fit my face. I do know my pupillary distance.

    Also what do you do so that people don’t tell you to “Take your sunglasses off.” Are yours the medium tint? That looked best to me!

    I find that blue is most helpful for me on the computer and for reading, but I know that lens color doesn’t match that. Is there any specific order I should try the tints in?

  13. That’s cool. I wish more people would hear something like this. I do remember a lesson I learned long ago about helping vs. assisting. A definition of the two are quite different from what the person giving the lesson was saying. I have always since then tried to “ask for assistance” instead of help. Help has implied doing things “for” me as if I couldn’t do anything for myself. (unless that’s the case). I also learned to ask to assist others and not to try to do everything “for” them. It’s like it says, “support”. I really liked the part about “don’t lead, [and some other stuff]”, instead “follow, support [and other stuff]” etc. Too many people want to lead and “control” IMHO. Thanks for posting this. Always nice to get a visual presentation.

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